PokerStars sniffing

Ayres · Registo: 02 Abr 2008 Mensagens: 305

Meninos e principe, o pai natal chega a 24 de dezembro, não me lembro de ele dizer que chegava mais cedo este ano.
Laughing

P.S.: just kidding Wink

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Tokas · Registo: 06 Nov 2006 Mensagens: 967 Local/Origem: Porto

[ricmp] · Colocada: Qui Nov 06, 2008 6:13 pm Assunto:

unaware é lindo!!! da-lhe boy!
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Hooligato · Registo: 09 Nov 2007 Mensagens: 182

Queria apenas partilhar um desabafo que por vezes tenho entre amigos: na internet em geral, estando o poker abrangido, o conceito de defesa do consumidor praticamente não existe.

Quando temos algum problema, ou conseguimos sensibilizar o site/sala para nos resolver a questão ou ficamos agarrados aos guizos, perdoem-me a expressão. Começa logo pelo facto de ninguém fazer queixa à DECO por abusos como esse da Pokerstars ou de algumas casas de apostas que fazem inúmeras habilidades.

E atenção, que todos falam do monopólio da Microsoft, e ninguém repara que o Google controla quase tudo nos tempos que correm e tem um poder exagerado, podendo cometer arbitrariedades como fechar um blogue ou considerá-lo impróprio sem nenhuma base para isso (retirando-o das buscas...) sem que possamos contrariar, ou fechar contas do AdSense (publicidade que eles pagam aos utilizadores) sem terem de justificar. É apenas um exemplo.

A chave da questão é: a quem nos queixamos? Estamos a falar entidades sem existência física, pelo menos em Portugal, sendo tudo tratado por e-mail. Resta esperar que tenham piedade de nós...
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flipsen · Colocada: Sex Nov 07, 2008 5:32 am Assunto:

Aqui esta a resposta do suporte da pokerstars ás nossas questões...

Hello filipe moreira, PokerStars has been listening to recent player feedback regarding SharkScope.

SharkScope remains a prohibited service while playing at PokerStars, but as a result of player feedback, we have now reconsidered the methods that we intend to use to prevent players from accessing unauthorised profitability and ROI data.

We want to limit the amount of information that third party results websites can publish because of our strong commitment to upholding the integrity of our games.

We oppose websites publishing player profitability data by default for two key reasons:

Firstly, many of our players simply don't want their ROI information to be publicly available. They have a right to privacy of this information.

Secondly, it gives an unfair advantage to those players who are able to obtain ROI data about players who have not consented for their information to be shown.

We have been working with various sites that currently display player profitability data and the vast majority of those sites have agreed to modify the default settings for the display of player data. Sites who are working with us have agreed that profitability data will only be available on players who have themselves specifically opted in, thus giving their consent for their profitability data to be displayed on that service. The default setting will be that tournament cashes only will be displayed.

The sites who intend to comply with our data policy also agree to allow players to opt out totally from their service, so that zero information will be displayed about them.

SharkScope has refused to remove player profitability and ROI data by default and therefore their service now falls into the category of prohibited for use in conjunction with the PokerStars Client. However, we understand that players have expressed concerns regarding our recent detection methods, and we recognise that we made a mistake.

Consequently, we will explain the error, and correct it. We detected players who visited the SharkScope website by having the PokerStars Client monitor active network connections using built in Windows functions for that purpose. The data returned by this function is similar to that which is returned by the Windows accessory called 'Netstat'. A periodic query to Windows determined whether the SharkScope IP was being accessed. This was a YES/NO query, purely regarding access to the specific SharkScope IP address. If a connection to the SharkScope IP was detected, this fact and only this fact was sent back to the PokerStars server.

We then sent warning emails to players who had accessed SharkScope in conjunction with the PokerStars Client. This technique ensured that players accessing the SharkScope website were detected without breaching their right to privacy. At no stage was a player's internet browsing history ever queried, or transmitted from the PokerStars Client to the PokerStars Server. However, despite our assertion above, we understand that some players are unhappy with the perception that PokerStars monitors their internet browsing habits. Consequently, even though PokerStars does not monitor players' internet browsing habits, we have decided to disable and completely remove this feature of our software to avoid even the slightest perception of privacy breaches. After all, our policy to prevent Third Party Websites publishing player profitability data by default was based on our strong belief that players have a right to privacy.

We also accept that some players who received a warning did not visit the SharkScope website with the expressed intent to break PokerStars rules.

We would like to apologise to those players. It is SharkScope who should bear the greater burden for breaking PokerStars' rules and our enforcement emphasis will now focus on them. To confirm, SharkScope will remain a prohibited service, for the reasons listed above. We ask that players do not use it at all in conjunction with PokerStars - the website, the HUD, or any other future tools that they might develop. However, we will divert our development efforts to limiting the effectiveness of SharkScope by preventing their ability - or the ability of certain other datamining sites - to extract the data from the PokerStars client without either the permission of PokerStars, or the players concerned. We believe that this policy correction will deliver on our twin commitments of listening to players who have overwhelmingly asked us to prevent SharkScope from publishing their private information, but also listening to players who were concerned about their browsing privacy.

As always, we welcome feedback on this policy, so please email us anytime at support@pokerstars.com.

We will work hard to deliver the best possible poker games, with the highest standards of integrity now and into the future.

Regards,

PokerStars Game Security.

espanhol · Registo: 05 Dec 2005 Mensagens: 1671

conclusão, basta usarem um proxy e tá legal
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cmpfaria · Registo: 16 Fev 2007 Mensagens: 96

Boas pessoal

Neste momento estou a usar maquinas virtuais para aceder ao PokerStars e ao SharkScop.

O mesmo PC, um virtual para cada um, já estive a jogar ring e ate agora nao fui notificado, vou ficar assim o dia todo, depois coloco os resultados........
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Ayres · Registo: 02 Abr 2008 Mensagens: 305

Cmpfaria, está a usar que programa, o Vmware? Agora tb estou curioso para experimentar.
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away4all · Registo: 30 Set 2006 Mensagens: 151

incrivel,consideram normal andar a investigar os ip por onde os clientes andam,mereciam sim que algum americano maluco os metesse em tribunal por abuso de confiança ou coisa parecida.

mais do que as badbeats sao sim atitudes destas e acharem que fazem bem que me levam a questionar a seriedade de certas empresas
d'oh!

ja agora cuidado com o messenger que pode estar a pokerstars á escuta Twisted Evil

quanto a mim vergonhosa atitude
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SportingCP · Colocada: Sex Nov 07, 2008 5:45 pm Assunto: